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Warlock 279 30-08-2005 08:14 AM

...seeing merlins last post about the black and the white gave me a twisted idea...since the face already kinda reminds me of a jester and there's a lute in there...maybe throw a jester hat in there ...subtley of course...like in the background so you don't pick up on it until you start to read into the image some...leaving with a murdered or murdering jester...kinda twisted kinda cool...

...on a darker far sicker twist of that train of thought...what if you gave the face some droop and sag and textured it up to look like a real face...one that had been skinned from a jester or harlequin [however you spell it]...

...i don't know just throwing out some ideas...i'm really liking your image now tho...in anycase...good work!

sandfish 30-08-2005 12:50 PM

hi Merlin and Warlock and many thanks for your comments and ideas :bow:
i'm glad , because you both, in general, "got the picture" ;) from the ideas you both wrote.... it means that i'm in the correct direction. now i will explain the concept:

It's is about a harlequin(jester) that also is a pro killer hired to "finish" ill-fated persons. the problem is, he's starting to have regrets about what he's doing, begins to hate himself for that.
So, when some nobleman comes to him, and wants to hire his "skills" (gold) to murder some poor guy, the harlequin loath and anger bring him to amok:angery: :angery: :angery:
Proffesional as he is, he control his temper, poison the nobleman with some powder hidden in his ring( which is in the middle of the table) in the wine . while the victim is blurred, the harlequin puts the mask on the victim face, and stabb him dozen times, and , for the grand finale, a final blow in the head, with the mandoline. (what's a harlequin, without his mandoline?)
after that, he return the mask( with blood on it) to it's stand, the blooded knife and mandoline on the table, and seats on the chair .... thinking, planning what to do next...where to ,now? he KNOWS there will be no more murders, on his part.

so what we see in the frame is the "after" part of the concept, which, BTW, is happening in a tent(hence the round and verical lines...and the tear with the stitches)

well, what do you think about the concept?
again, thanks you both :beer:

sandfish 30-08-2005 12:57 PM

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here is a little update:
Merlin... you suggested a hat.... when i read that i had just finished the hat and the candle stand in the background :bow:

see in the picture... with texture, and reflections, it wil be more clear.... btw... the things which are close to the camera, and the ones behind the mask...on the stand, are the same i put on the hat .. .you know, noisy and shiny decorations to the harlequin hat :)

Warlock 279 30-08-2005 06:42 PM

...awesome now that you've explained the story...everything makes sooo much sense...and you're definately on the right track...awsome work!...keep at it

sandfish 30-08-2005 06:50 PM

BTW ... what is the deadline of this challenge? 23:59 of 31 August? what timezone?
i asked the question in the rules post... but no answer yet

Warlock 279 30-08-2005 10:24 PM

been wondering that myself actually...i'd assume its server time...so but i don't know it that means we have 24 hours and 40 minutes or just 40 minutes!!!

sandfish 31-08-2005 05:46 AM

ok ... let's look at the server time... now it's 09:00 here ... see what is the post time on the message

sandfish 31-08-2005 11:36 AM

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hi guys
i am texturing my scene right now...and came upon something quite amazing.... IMHO
i was texturing the wine bottle when i saw a little reflection on it...
so i was curious what is reflecting there

sandfish 31-08-2005 11:41 AM

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i zoomed in ... and :eek3: :eeek2: :eek3: :eeek2: :mg:
i was amazed what it revealed... u can see the entire scene ... in a very ... psychodelic way.
ii know that im not objective , but still ... i'm like a little boy seeing himself in a "magic" mirror :blush:

sandfish 31-08-2005 11:48 AM

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a closer look
everything is there but different ... the knife stabbing the gold... distorted and opposite (up\down) proportions... "broken"mandoline... even ,u can see in the upper left corner, the chair/candle stand/harlequin hat

well , i babbled enough, what do u think?

Warlock 279 31-08-2005 04:32 PM

...i hate to say...cause i really like using reflections this way...i almost did the same thing using my characters eye and the reflection of the scene in it...but i fear...for clarity sake you may have to go with the original...which is by no means a bad thing b/c you had a nice compostiotion going as it was...

...however...

...i definately like this...but i'm partial to shiny things...i think its a really cool way to show the scene tho...if you do decide to go this route...you need to move that knife into the center of the reflection in front of the mandelin...because i'm having trouble finding it as it the way it is now...and also maybe lower the mask...or use bright colors on it so that it stands out...clarity it goig to be the trick to pulling this one off i think...

...you know...i'm still gonna have to go with i think you're better off with the other one...at least this late in the game...this one's cool...but the other is a lot more sound as far as conveying what you want it to...

sandfish 31-08-2005 06:30 PM

here is the final ... got to go work :(
i want to thanks all that helped ... much appreciated.
i hope i was able to help others.
good luck to all:beer:
'till the next episode....;)


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/185...10805188rb.jpg

sandfish 31-08-2005 06:32 PM

wanted a link to Imageshack

maybe this way?

sandfish 31-08-2005 06:33 PM

the words:


It's is about a harlequin(jester) that also is a pro killer hired to "finish" ill-fated persons. the problem is, he's starting to have regrets about what he's doing, begins to hate himself for that.
So, when some nobleman comes to him, and wants to hire his "skills" (gold) to murder some poor guy, the harlequin loath and anger bring him to amok
Proffesional as he is, he control his temper, poison the nobleman with some powder hidden in his ring( which is in the middle of the table) in the wine . while the victim is blurred, the harlequin puts the mask on the victim face, and stabb him dozen times, and , for the grand finale, a final blow in the head, with the mandoline. (what's a harlequin, without his mandoline?)
after that, he return the mask( with blood on it) to it's stand, the blooded knife and mandoline on the table, and seats on the chair .... thinking, planning what to do next...where to ,now? he KNOWS there will be no more murders, on his part.

so what we see in the frame is the "after" part of the concept, which, BTW, is happening in a tent(hence the round and verical lines...and the tear with the stitches)



nope
this?
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/185...05188rb.th.jpg

sandfish 03-09-2005 11:35 AM

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i think the ImageShack link leads to thumbnail :confused:
so here it is:


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