[Roux]

Thanks guys.
Fallenswordsman: I stand corrected. It is Stuart Aitken who wrote the tute using the detail out or point by point method as opposed to splines ala Larry or box modelling ala ?
I think the lips is just a result of the angle, they extend quite a way back at the side of the mouth now but they may be a little wide for a female? As for the textures, I'm still messing :-)
I think I might jump straight into another character now that I have an idea of how to tackle it and see if I can make it look the way I intended!