flower underwater WIP
 

well guys this is my first personal project in lightwaven and my 3rd or 4th project in Lightwave :)

i want to make a flower that's drowning to the bottom of the sea, i know flowers don't sink but i have a good reason for it :)


i hope you all like it, i have a lot of problems and i hope a lot of people can help me to make this really nice :)

my first problem is that i can't get an nice/realistic/good lookin texture for the green of my flower ....

2ndly i want to animate the flower with each leaf, but i don't have a clue how the jk bones work.


the last i don't have a clue how to make the underwater scene :) so i just started, and can use a lot of help here :)

comments and critics are very welcome :)

Sorry guys, I'll have 2 ask these questions in dutch, cause I don't get the Q's in English:

Hi Ank,

Is het een levende bloem en verdrinkt ie in de zee, dus probeert ie te zwemmen?

Wat voor tex had je in gedachte voor de steel?

And how close will U zoom in on the flower?

U can bone the leaves in Modeler with skelegons and attach weightmaps 2 them, U can also choose 4 boning them in Lay-out.

The control is more precize if U use the first method.

I can help U with that if U have no clue how 2 do that.
If U like-U could send the files to me and I'll send them back with skelegons and explanation how 2 use them.

The best way 4 U 4 the future is 2 learn, how 2 do it yourselve.
I can help U with that 2, if U like.

Time is my only constraint as I have 2 fly from friday till wednesday. So thursday would B the first day I can help U.


How realistic does the ocean have 2 B? If it has 2 B very realistic U might have 2 work with Caustics and volumetric texture-animated lights, which have a huge rendertime. If it just needs the illusion it might be a lot easier...


Groeten (regards),

T.

i'll be translating the 2 questions so everyone knows what we are talking about :)


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Is het een levende bloem en verdrinkt ie in de zee, dus probeert
ie te zwemmen?
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translation: is it a living flower and is he drowning in the sea ? , so does he try to swim ?


answer : no, i mean't that normally flowers will float on the sea but this one will be sinking to the bottom of the sea, I just want the bones to make an animation that a flower is flying above the sea, goes with the wind, hits the water and sinks to the bottom.


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Wat voor tex had je in gedachte voor de steel?
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translation: what texture did you had in mind for the green for the flower ?



answer :some sort of nice grass, some with a nice gradient to brighter green....

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And how close will U zoom in on the flower?
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pretty close just like the shots i made, mostly the flower will be like the shots that he is on the left.

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How realistic does the ocean have 2 B? If it has 2 B very realistic U might have 2 work with Caustics and volumetric texture-animated lights, which have a huge rendertime. If it just needs the illusion it might be a lot easier...
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illusion is good enough , well i would like the beams of light go trough the water like in most movies :) so that the beams of light will hit the flower. and i have no clue if i'm going the right way.

rendertime is nog problem at all :) it's just an personal project :)


Thanks for the offer for helping me, but i have no net at my place, i'm currently at my job-traineeship ( stage ) i hope i have internet at my place soon ( i just moved )

somebody showed me once jk-bones with inverse kenetics, i don't know much from it but at least i saw it once, i don't know if you were referring to that ......

tnx in advance anyway :)

Good idea:) I don't like the shader of the flower. Try to see this picture, maybe can help you for reference:)

http://d.fab1.waika9.com/image/nenuphar%201000.JPG

my first tryout of the actual scene :)
Stéphane you're right about the flower and I'm Trying to make a decent texture in photoshop :)


the height and weight are in the good size :)
i hope you all like it :)

http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/underwater-zonder.jpg


http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/underwater-test-2.jpg

nice scene
 

maybe this will help with the underwater part.

Dae:)

WOW :)

tnx Dae for the link :) , I think this will help a lot :)

quick update :)

well i haven't gone any further i think ... still having problems with texturing and the animation of the water is also a lot of work ....



http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/underwater-test-3.jpg

http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/underwater-test-4.jpg

http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/underwater-test-5.jpg

another update ..... lightwave is really hard :(


http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/test.jpg


http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/test2.jpg




Does anyone can tell me my problem in the particle system ? ,
besides the fact that u can obviously see that i don't know what
i'm doing :)

i want the particle system to be bubbles, that will rise when the flower sinks to the bottom :)
you can see the spheres in the particle system but not in the render :(


http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/particle.jpg
http://members.lycos.nl/myrandor/particles-render.jpg

pls help :) cause this lightwave n00b need lots
C & C appreciated :)

have you try using cloth(silk) on the petals and have the emeter effect them that way.

maybe ez then bones and doing it by hand

i have a suggestion:
instead of having the flower in straight vertical position, maybe u should make it a little angled so it seems like its gradually sinking.;)

But nice job with the water and lighting!:tup:

tnx shadowfox that is a really good idea :) i was going to do this only with bones and weightmaps,,, but i'm defenetly going to do you're idea, only one question

does the flower need to be in seperate layers or in 1 for giving the flowers the bones and the petals the cloth sim ...


tnx for the tip Zeeman but i wanted to be it that way, but i don't know much about lightwave, and i never animated an object before so i think it's gonna take a while .


if someone knows a good tut for riggin bones into an object,
or someone who knows how the particle system works pls
add here some comments :) everything is welcome :P


this is for an animation in my porfolio-website
so i'm putting here some music i want to play on the website :P

C&C appreciated :)

song number 1

song number 2

some cloth tuts

http://members.shaw.ca/LightWavetuto...,%20Cloth%20FX