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Warheart · 19-05-2004, 05:58 PM

Ok no bull stright to the point. I have a round island and i want to add cliffs to it but sadly i have no idea where to start, i dont want to have to make it manually (pulling the mesh around untill it's right) because that will simply take forever i was hopeing someone knows a easier way for me.

Thanks in advance

rich_is_bored · 19-05-2004, 07:06 PM

How did you make the island? Maybe you should post a wire?

Aside from that I'd have to point you here although it may not apply in your case...

http://www.newtek.com/products/light...quick_terrain/

R4s1n · 19-05-2004, 07:12 PM

Well you could start off with a Displacer plug-in in Layout. Umm you should make a ground plane with many polygons (better outcomes) and subpatch it before you go into Layout. Then in layout go to Properties>Deform>Add Displacement>Normal Displacement. And then experiment with the outcomes. And then add some procedural textures to give it some snow and mud. The snow and mud is talked about in a tutorial over at Newtek under the Texture tab in the Tutorials.
[Edit] I found the tutorial...
http://www.newtek.com/products/light...landscape.html

The Normal Displacement is also used by Philip in the Ocean Tute.

Cheers!

R4s1n · 19-05-2004, 07:15 PM

The one that Rich has posted is the third tute that you can use.

Warheart · 19-05-2004, 08:16 PM

thanks for the quick replys but IMO they dont really do what i need but correct me if i'm wrong and point out why please.

Anyway heres a pic of what i have at the mo, the background layer is the island and i've put a ring on the active layer showing where the cliffs will go.
I'll also post the image i'm working from so you can see what i'm actually trying to do.

Warheart · 19-05-2004, 08:21 PM

and what i'm working from. (a rough guide)

rich_is_bored · 20-05-2004, 03:58 AM

Are you working with tris as opposed to quads? I ask because you'd be able to take advantage of more plugins if the mesh was constructed of quads.

Warheart · 20-05-2004, 10:57 AM

Yea i seem to triple everythin for no apparant reason lol.
I guess i should get out that habbit.

rich_is_bored · 20-05-2004, 08:21 PM

Forget what you have so far and start with a flat disc. Bevel the disc in, down, in, and up several times.

Go into subpatch mode and use the bandsaw to sharpen up the edges.

Turn the subdivision level down to about 2 or 3. Freeze the subpatch then jitter the points. Go back into subpatch mode and this should give you a good base to start with.

You should be able to smooth shift out vertical rows of polys at the cliffs to add detail.

Warheart · 21-05-2004, 10:18 AM

thanks i'll give that a try.

Warheart · 21-05-2004, 10:28 AM

ok i'm stuck, i'm not too sure what you mean when you say "Bevel the disc in, down, in, and up several times." i know how to bevel but i'm not sure what i'm suppost to be doing with it could you explain it in more detail please?

The rest is clear enough.

bullet_evader · 21-05-2004, 03:27 PM

i think he is mean something like this!!!

Warheart · 21-05-2004, 04:03 PM

THANK YOU your a life saver! i now officially love everyone here lol.
Thanks again

Leovenous · 21-05-2004, 09:31 PM

Everyone loves us eventually Wareheart.

19-05-2004, 05:58 PM	#1
Warheart Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 43	Cliffs Ok no bull stright to the point. I have a round island and i want to add cliffs to it but sadly i have no idea where to start, i dont want to have to make it manually (pulling the mesh around untill it's right) because that will simply take forever i was hopeing someone knows a easier way for me. Thanks in advance __________________ Trying is the first step to faliure.

19-05-2004, 07:12 PM	#3
R4s1n Full Access Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Manchester, PA Posts: 1,319	Well you could start off with a Displacer plug-in in Layout. Umm you should make a ground plane with many polygons (better outcomes) and subpatch it before you go into Layout. Then in layout go to Properties>Deform>Add Displacement>Normal Displacement. And then experiment with the outcomes. And then add some procedural textures to give it some snow and mud. The snow and mud is talked about in a tutorial over at Newtek under the Texture tab in the Tutorials. [Edit] I found the tutorial... http://www.newtek.com/products/light...landscape.html The Normal Displacement is also used by Philip in the Ocean Tute. Cheers! __________________ Johnny was a chemist's son, but Johnny is no more. What Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4. Last edited by R4s1n; 19-05-2004 at 07:18 PM.

19-05-2004, 07:15 PM	#4
R4s1n Full Access Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Manchester, PA Posts: 1,319	The one that Rich has posted is the third tute that you can use. __________________ Johnny was a chemist's son, but Johnny is no more. What Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4.

20-05-2004, 10:57 AM	#8
Warheart Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 43	Yea i seem to triple everythin for no apparant reason lol. I guess i should get out that habbit. __________________ Trying is the first step to faliure.

21-05-2004, 10:18 AM	#10
Warheart Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 43	thanks i'll give that a try. __________________ Trying is the first step to faliure.

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19-05-2004, 07:06 PM	#2
rich_is_bored Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 174	How did you make the island? Maybe you should post a wire? Aside from that I'd have to point you here although it may not apply in your case... http://www.newtek.com/products/light...quick_terrain/

20-05-2004, 03:58 AM	#7
rich_is_bored Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 174	Are you working with tris as opposed to quads? I ask because you'd be able to take advantage of more plugins if the mesh was constructed of quads.

20-05-2004, 08:21 PM	#9
rich_is_bored Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 174	Forget what you have so far and start with a flat disc. Bevel the disc in, down, in, and up several times. Go into subpatch mode and use the bandsaw to sharpen up the edges. Turn the subdivision level down to about 2 or 3. Freeze the subpatch then jitter the points. Go back into subpatch mode and this should give you a good base to start with. You should be able to smooth shift out vertical rows of polys at the cliffs to add detail.

21-05-2004, 10:28 AM	#11
Warheart Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 43	ok i'm stuck, i'm not too sure what you mean when you say "Bevel the disc in, down, in, and up several times." i know how to bevel but i'm not sure what i'm suppost to be doing with it could you explain it in more detail please? The rest is clear enough. __________________ Trying is the first step to faliure.

21-05-2004, 04:03 PM	#13
Warheart Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nottingham UK Posts: 43	THANK YOU your a life saver! i now officially love everyone here lol. Thanks again __________________ Trying is the first step to faliure.

21-05-2004, 09:31 PM	#14
Leovenous Full Access Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 367	Everyone loves us eventually Wareheart.