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Old 16-11-2003, 02:11 PM   #1
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Default Nov/Dec - Wormtoungue - Matrix Style - Kvaalen - Norm

With so many people in this challenge I couldn't resist.
I can't promise many or fast updates, but it is two months long so it doesn't matter.

I'll be working on Wormtoungue (or Grima) and I don't know what item I'll make that characterizes him so I'd gladly hear some suggestions.

The style is sort of like Matrix style (I know they didn't make up the style, but I couldn't think of a better name for it) but it is going to be cartoonish.

I'm not using any reference from the movie.

I'm not very sure about the hair, everyone in middle earth seems to have long hair but his looks too good on him.

http://mapage.noos.fr/samuelLK/Galle...gue/Wip_01.jpg

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Old 16-11-2003, 06:15 PM   #2
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A little update... giving him a Matrix look.

http://mapage.noos.fr/samuelLK/Galle...gue/Wip_02.jpg
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Old 17-11-2003, 11:42 AM   #3
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I'm afraid that this is going to be all the updates for this weekend.
But I'll work some more on it next weekend.

I'd love to hear any ideas or suggetions since I'm not sure what I should model next or if I should start texturing and rigging him.

http://mapage.noos.fr/samuelLK/Galle...gue/Wip_03.jpg

BTW, does anyone know why the [IMG] code is off?!?
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Old 18-11-2003, 10:11 AM   #4
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nice start mate and thx for entering this month
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Old 18-11-2003, 01:33 PM   #5
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Do you have an overall script/flow for the animation yet as this might lend some thoughts on how to proceed.

If not, then I'd be tempted to drop in a quick rig and have a play with some ideas for animating and then sit back and see what comes to mind...
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Old 18-11-2003, 04:17 PM   #6
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Thanks guys!

Mark: We are supposed to create an animation? I din't know that. I don't have any script or idea yet. I guess I'll think of something before I continue then.
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Old 18-11-2003, 06:48 PM   #7
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You don't have to create an animation just a still will do.

from the Challenge guidelines
1) It can be high-res or game low-res. Textures, rigging, animation/posing, etc is NOT required.
Sorry if I worried you there ... my bad :o
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Old 18-11-2003, 07:11 PM   #8
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Ah! LOL!

I think it will be nice to have some sort of matrix style fighting, running or jumping over roof tops.

Next weekend I'll probably work on the cloth a little more so that it can be animated better and do some tweaking here and there. Then I'll rig it an all.

I'm very tempted to wait for [8] to do the rigging and cloth.
We'll see.
BTW, about rigging in [8]. There will be an option to save rigs and reuse them later on a different model.
You scale the rig to the right size and move the joints around. It'll keep all the expressions and everything. Sounds great!
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Old 19-11-2003, 03:55 AM   #9
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Fantastic ... as long as it works ... and as long as L8 arrives this side of the next Millennium (counting the days...)
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Old 19-11-2003, 06:15 PM   #10
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Talking does he shake alot

he kinda reminds me of Ozzy
any way cant wait to see him jumping over roof tops,
keep the updates coming.

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Old 22-11-2003, 12:58 PM   #11
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Thanks! Now that you mention it I see that the lips really look like Ozzys.

Here an update, redid the boots (the ones before were temporarly taken from an older model just so he'll have some feet ), added gloves, tweaked his hair and face a bit.

http://mapage.noos.fr/samuelLK/Galle...gue/Wip_04.jpg

Unless someone has any better idea, I'm going to start rigging and texturing.

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Old 23-11-2003, 02:28 AM   #12
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I rigged the character (I know there are stil some minor deformation problems that will be fixed) and gave him some textures that still need tweaking.

The cloth deformations is just bones but since LW[8] is supposed to come out before the end of this challenge I thouhgt I'll try out the new dynamics on this, for the time being I'm leaving the cloth like this.

A couple views:

http://mapage.noos.fr/samuelLK/Galle...gue/Wip_05.jpg
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Old 24-11-2003, 01:56 AM   #13
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pretty neat. Right now, there's nothing that would really indicate that it's Wormtongue... hmm, what could signify him?
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I know... If you have any ideas please tell me.
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Old 25-11-2003, 12:00 AM   #15
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Well, in the movie, I think he has really really black hair, and extremely white skin, almost as though he is never in the light.

Also, doesn't he have a mole or wart somewhere on his face?
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