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I would love to be able to pick my download size. 8 32.00%
I don’t care what size the downloads are. 17 68.00%
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Old 20-05-2003, 02:55 AM   #1
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Ok some people have complained in the past that the downloads here are simply to large to get on a 56k connection, put your name down here if you would like to be able to pick your download file size.

Basically it would be a system of you pick the size of file you would like to download the server cuts it up you download the parts @ whatever size is good for your connection and we give you a little app to stick the parts back together after you have downloaded them, the process would be very simple.

Would you like to see this here put your name in this thread if this idea interests you.
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Old 20-05-2003, 11:51 AM   #2
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I don't think there is any need for such a thing, it is easier to just download with a program that supports resuming such as DAP.
Then you can stop it when ever you want and continue later.
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Old 20-05-2003, 01:52 PM   #3
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No you cant, because of security we don’t support file resuming. So people with slow connections have to download 50 meg in one go with no cut-offs
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Old 20-05-2003, 02:33 PM   #4
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Even splitting the files up into smaller parts it would be a long download, but modem users would definatly benefit from this idea.

The problem you get with a lot of these "anytime" isp packages is the line being dropped after 2 hours connection to prevent you from being online all the time??? I thought that was the point of an "anytime" package.

There's no way you could download a 50meg file in 2 hours on a 56k modem.
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Old 20-05-2003, 03:50 PM   #5
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I've never tried this so I don't know if it works, but DAP claims that it can resume files even when it is'nt suported.
I don't have the full version of it but every time I try to download something that doesn't support resuming, it tells me that if I buy the full version, it can resume anyway.
But you might have done something against that too.

I know that when you download with DAP, the donloaded file won't have the right name, it'll be called some sort of number, but then you can rename it.
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Old 20-05-2003, 03:56 PM   #6
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Kvaalen DAP wont work on this site, because of the way the files are served, its not just not supported here its not possible because the files don’t exist as anything but streams of binary data in a BLOB record.

There is nothing i can do about the actual size of the movies reduce the size reduce the quality and we don’t want to do that, however as rincewind points out its imposable for 56k users to get movies atm well maybe not imposable but certainly a pain in the ass.

Cable users would still be about to download in one part if they wanted to.
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Old 20-05-2003, 03:59 PM   #7
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At the moment, i have to download the movies at work on our 2 meg line, burn them to cd and use the cds at home.

This works fine for me, but i'm sure many dial up users simply don't have this option.

I personally can't wait until broadband is available in my area.
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Old 20-05-2003, 04:08 PM   #8
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Although I dont have 56k, I can imagine if it were possible to break the tutorial up into smaller parts say like 10 megs each part, that it would be possible to DL the entire thing without to much trouble. One thing that you have to be concerned about is if one of the parts becomes corrupted then you have to start all over and even broken up it would still take a long time to DL a 50 or 80 meg tutorial.

If given the choice I would order cd's its much less of a headache than trying to DL hundreds of Meg's of Tutorials.
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Old 20-05-2003, 04:10 PM   #9
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you can put the parts on CD and order them no one uses the system however?

Maybe i made it to complicated
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Old 20-05-2003, 04:13 PM   #10
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I think alowing people to chose would be a good idea. I couldn't hurt anyone else, just and one more click to do!
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Old 20-05-2003, 04:32 PM   #11
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Humm Mabye take a look at it and simplify the process, and/or offer more variety such as mabye someone can burn and ship from in the USA then you could charge Way less for shipping (to USA customers) and it would arrive much faster I cant imagine being on 56k and not wanting to use this service. Its perfect for ordering a bunch of tutorials.

Just for fun I went through and setup a cd with 11 points. I found it was easy to get all the tutorials and easy to understand. I must say the 34$ usd price and Shipping fee is probbly what stops people from ordering.

If you had someone to burn and ship here in the USA to USA customers it would be much cheaper to order cd's, probbly 1$ usd per burned disk (Cost of disk) and 3$-5$ usd to ship it anywhere in the US at the 3-7 day rate. But we are talking about US customers only, and of the VIP members I dont really know how many are USA. Also it would probbly be cheaper to ship from US to Canada than from Europe to Canada.
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Old 20-05-2003, 05:30 PM   #12
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Hmm, back on the DAP track, Kvaalen you are right that the registered version does have support for resuming files even when not supported.

The way it works is that the file is downloaded first to a central DAP server, then you download the file from there.

However, I always thought that this then raises the issues of privacy since the vendors of DAP are able to see exactly what you've downloaded and when. Whilst this probably isn't a major concern for legitimate downloads, I still don't like the thought of people snooping through my web habits as I find this intrusive.

That's why I'm always careful to use proxy servers where possible and always block cookies from sites unless I've expressly enabled them. Gives me an edge on those dodgy marketing types that want to know everything about me
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Old 20-05-2003, 05:30 PM   #13
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I agree with Johnny9ball,

Anyone who want's to try downloading these tutorials on a modem would be crazy. Especially considering ones line the mclaren tut are getting into a lot of parts now.
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Old 20-05-2003, 06:21 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Mark
Hmm, back on the DAP track, Kvaalen you are right that the registered version does have support for resuming files even when not supported.

The way it works is that the file is downloaded first to a central DAP server, then you download the file from there.
O i never knew that in that case it probably would work, you learn something new every day.

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Old 21-05-2003, 12:53 AM   #15
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I know I am probably going to spark a lot of flames my way but hey, it's just my opinion...

I really think that dial up is limited. Your never going to be able do download files that are 50 to 100mb. Even if you split the files up into multiple parts and then repackaged them. One corrupted part would force you to download the entire series again.

Those of you out there with 56k should come to realize that there are just some things that you can't do without a broadband connection.

Its time to let dialup go, it's holding you back.
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