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syrogen · 16-04-2003, 01:53 AM

well here is my second attempt at a head... i really need some lighting tips/help to create a light setup that will make a convincing photorealistic look.

i also need help on those eyes! i just cant get them to look convincing!

dae · 16-04-2003, 09:29 AM

Hi Syrogen

There is a great head tut in the book INSIDE LIGHTWAVE 7 by Dan Ablan,
I am not very good at modeling heads myself:p,
but texturing the head could take you half way in making it look realistic.

Regards,

Dae

philip · 16-04-2003, 10:19 AM

I'll go over the texturing part in the basic head tutorial.
But on the model I might suggest to sharpen his jawline a bit and maybe have a second look at the lips and nose. There's nothing really *wrong* about your model, only I think some more detail and characterization would do wonders here.

Very good start!

RiGLEY · 16-04-2003, 02:37 PM

yes it looks VERY good to me too ! i guess you didn't use radiosity (or HDRI lightning) if you want a quick and easy way to lit your model, consider using a HDR image as an environment.
did you use sss ? it seems to me, that you did.
good work !

syrogen · 16-04-2003, 10:30 PM

dea: thanks

ive been planning to get that book, and also this lightwave 7 lighting book

philip: yeah, i plan to give him some sort of facial expression, just for more character.

RiGLEY: hmm, ive tried radiosity and hdri... but when i try to use them both together this is what i get

[img] http://www.syrogen.com/misc/feduphead.jpg [/img]

!! freaky aint it? my sample rate is at 4x12 and shading noise reduction is also checked...

Mark · 16-04-2003, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by syrogen
RiGLEY: hmm, ive tried radiosity and hdri... but when i try to use them both together this is what i get

[img] http://www.syrogen.com/misc/feduphead.jpg [/img]

!! freaky aint it? my sample rate is at 4x12 and shading noise reduction is also checked...

Ugh... looks like a really bad case of exzcema...

syrogen · 16-04-2003, 10:38 PM

hehe, all the fancy face creams in the world would never itch his itch

philip · 16-04-2003, 11:21 PM

go to the image editor and apply a blur filter to the HDRI, render again
(make it real blurry, like size set to 10 or something)

syrogen · 16-04-2003, 11:28 PM

hmm... still a no-go, doesnt work for me. i blurred horizontally and vertically at size 10 and it still was very... grainy

dugg · 17-04-2003, 12:17 AM

I did a model of my son based on the Inside LW7 book and at one point it looked really similar to your 'over-exposed' version, all I can remember is that I found the solution somewhere in the middle between too much texture and looking like a porcelain doll. I hope you have the ambient light off or virtually off.
I hate to tell you to twiddle with the knobs... but that's what I do. Good luck

dugg · 17-04-2003, 12:19 AM

here's the pic of my son... (I hope)

syrogen · 19-04-2003, 07:10 AM

updated the color and bump maps....

syrogen · 19-04-2003, 07:23 AM

just messing around with lighting

syrogen · 22-04-2003, 02:28 PM

dae · 22-04-2003, 02:38 PM

The model is really coming together, keep at it.

Dae

16-04-2003, 01:53 AM	#1
syrogen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	character: head well here is my second attempt at a head... i really need some lighting tips/help to create a light setup that will make a convincing photorealistic look. i also need help on those eyes! i just cant get them to look convincing!

16-04-2003, 09:29 AM	#2
dae Full Access Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 362	Hi Hi Syrogen There is a great head tut in the book INSIDE LIGHTWAVE 7 by Dan Ablan, I am not very good at modeling heads myself:p, but texturing the head could take you half way in making it look realistic. Regards, Dae __________________ "I THINK, THEREFORE I AM" René*„escartes

16-04-2003, 10:19 AM	#3
philip Tutorial Clown Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 817	I'll go over the texturing part in the basic head tutorial. But on the model I might suggest to sharpen his jawline a bit and maybe have a second look at the lips and nose. There's nothing really wrong about your model, only I think some more detail and characterization would do wonders here. Very good start! __________________ Don't ever argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

16-04-2003, 10:30 PM	#5
syrogen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	dea: thanks ive been planning to get that book, and also this lightwave 7 lighting book philip: yeah, i plan to give him some sort of facial expression, just for more character. RiGLEY: hmm, ive tried radiosity and hdri... but when i try to use them both together this is what i get [img] http://www.syrogen.com/misc/feduphead.jpg [/img] !! freaky aint it? my sample rate is at 4x12 and shading noise reduction is also checked... __________________ www.syrogen.com

16-04-2003, 10:38 PM	#7
syrogen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	hehe, all the fancy face creams in the world would never itch his itch __________________ www.syrogen.com

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16-04-2003, 02:37 PM	#4
RiGLEY Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 172	yes it looks VERY good to me too ! i guess you didn't use radiosity (or HDRI lightning) if you want a quick and easy way to lit your model, consider using a HDR image as an environment. did you use sss ? it seems to me, that you did. good work !

16-04-2003, 11:21 PM	#8
philip Tutorial Clown Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 817	go to the image editor and apply a blur filter to the HDRI, render again (make it real blurry, like size set to 10 or something) __________________ Don't ever argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

16-04-2003, 11:28 PM	#9
syrogen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	hmm... still a no-go, doesnt work for me. i blurred horizontally and vertically at size 10 and it still was very... grainy __________________ www.syrogen.com

17-04-2003, 12:17 AM	#10
dugg Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BC Canada Posts: 8	I did a model of my son based on the Inside LW7 book and at one point it looked really similar to your 'over-exposed' version, all I can remember is that I found the solution somewhere in the middle between too much texture and looking like a porcelain doll. I hope you have the ambient light off or virtually off. I hate to tell you to twiddle with the knobs... but that's what I do. Good luck

19-04-2003, 07:10 AM	#12
syrogen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	updated the color and bump maps.... __________________ www.syrogen.com

19-04-2003, 07:23 AM	#13
syrogen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	just messing around with lighting __________________ www.syrogen.com

22-04-2003, 02:28 PM	#14
syrogen Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	__________________ www.syrogen.com

22-04-2003, 02:38 PM	#15
dae Full Access Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 362	Looking good The model is really coming together, keep at it. Dae __________________ "I THINK, THEREFORE I AM" René*„escartes

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