[Petrograde]

hmmm,.. well, these aren't the best pics for reference. I'll take a look through my old photos and see if I find some closer, better detailed ones.

Also,. you might wanna try this link

[ozwolf]

Thank you very much, would running have helped?

i can see a few errors i have made, the first one i noticed is in the second pic you posted there is a part that sticks out above your head on the left hand side of the door, what this is i dont know, but i have modelled it as being over the gunners window.

secondly is the overall shape of the exhaust intake, much more oblong than i have modelled mine and also there is a rounded shape at the start of the exhaust intake which is far more flat on the actuall hawk than i have modelled it

third is the landing gear support much wider near the pilots door than any pictures i have suggest. I am still unsure of the internal cabin layouts. But i will use these pictures as i have a high poly sub patched version of the model that i plan to texture myself and put all the extras on that low poly just wont allow for.

Thanks again.

[DigiMatt]

I took the liberty of merging these threads..

[ozwolf]

thanks digi but can you change the name back to MH-60 Blackhawk??

[Mark]

Originally posted by ozwolf thanks digi but can you change the name back to MH-60 Blackhawk??

Done

[Petrograde]

a few notes:
the main rotor head you modeled is too flat. The -60 hub is actually quite big. I'd say about .7 Meters tall and a little over 1 meter long.

I can see that air intake would be pretty hard to model. it is an odd shape, it could probably be a little longer. The exhaust duct you modeled isnt bad. Just so you know, most of that exhaust duct is hollow, if you look at it from behind you can see almost a full meter in.

I saw on spot where the perportion was wrong, the area forward of the cargo door and aft of the gunner's window: there should be a piller there a bout a half meter long. The langing gear vertical strut goues all the way to the top of the cabin. Hover most of it is behind a fairing.

The 'red light' you have on the top of the aircraft isn't red. We call it the 'disco ball' it is a cylinder with many little sqaure mirrors.

The 'bump' on the front of the aircraft. That is actually just a color weather radar system MH-60's don't usually have those. Typically only Medevac and Search & Rescue birds. Most MH-60's do have the long refueling probe on the front.

Overall, I'd say you built a very fine model, and most people would not notice the little errors.

I still fix US Army helicopters,.. as a civilian contractor I wish I could get you some better detailed close ups. However, cameras are not permitted on the compound. Security it pretty tight these days. I'm still looking for that box of old photos, there might be something useful there.

one more thing: I realize this model it not ment to be photo realisitic. If you ever feel like make one here's a tips:

HM-60's are not olive drab like the rest of the Army helicopters. They are almost black, I'd say a very very dark green.

Along the the length of the tail boom it reads UNITED STATES ARMY on both sides. Also, on the vertical stabilizer in the back below the tail rotor there is the 'tail number' for all -60's it reads like this: 97-26123 ,... okay, the first 2 digits is the years it was built. the 3rd and 4th (26) designates it as a Blackhawk,.. the last 3 are the serial number meaning, from the tail number I have above it was the 123rd Blackhawk to be built in 1997. There's a bit of useless trivia for ya!

The area behind the engines where the cabin section meets the tail boom (called the transition section) usually has black soot for about 2 meters behind the exhaust.

Military helicopters are dirty! They work for a living. On -60's you normally see oil stains around the front on the air inlets. There is a seal that loves to leak fron the engin gearbox. Normally it's the left hand side that leaks ,.. but sometimes both.

I hope this helps you! I'd be happy to answer any questions about any of the US Army helicopters, (short of compromising national security. LOL) I work on all of them.

When my LW skills improve, I plan on making some seriously realistic models. stay tuned!

[ozwolf]

Thanks pentograde!

Very imforative stuff, i plan to revisit the model and make a much more detailed version. But right now i have to make a challenger tank for the sudan conflict mod, which is based on the BF2 engine.

Send me a message when you begin working on your models!

Thanks again.
OzWOlf

[odeone]

Nice model ozwolf.

Very informative thread. When time permits I'll be starting a Huey UH-1D. Nice to see other people with an interest in helicopters.

Cheers...

[ozwolf]

I always loved the vietnam era choppers, made a few 1/35 scale plastic model UH's nice old chopper. Be glad to help with any issue you come across during construction.

[odeone]

Thanks ozwolf. Will welcome your help during construction.

Cheers...