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buco · 19-01-2003, 10:25 PM

Hi Digi,
Photoshop uses a predefinited RGB setting decided during install time. This could be your problem (that usually is not intended to be a problem :p ); if you want to see the images with your RGB monitor setting (and thus the way you'll see them in a browser) you have to search for the preview submenu (I don't know the exact name in localized versions, mine is under 'visualizza') and choose the option 'no compensation'. You could also preview a standard Mac or Windows RGB setting and as you post images on the web you should find the best compromise between all of them assuming that your monitor gamma is set correctly... Gamma things...

DigiMatt · 21-01-2003, 07:12 AM

Just wanted to say that this thread is not dead, I just want a faster computer

Got a GI render going and it takes forever, hopes it comes out good when its done.

//Matt

Bobakabob · 21-01-2003, 07:14 PM

Nice image - Perhaps add a little smudging to the shiny ball surfaces and turn up the antialiasing. It will be interesting to see how you achieve a convincing table texture... I'm sure I saw a felt shader a whileback?

threedfanatic · 21-01-2003, 07:33 PM

Nicely done, the only thing that really stands out to me is that the balls seem way to bright. They almost look like christmas ornaments. You might also add some chalk marks on the balls, dirty them up a bit, the seem way to clean that is if you are going for realizm.
Hope this helps.

philip · 21-01-2003, 09:13 PM

yep, chalk marks are a good idea, but please: only on the white ball; everything else will be a fould :p

you could also try and lower the diffuse setting for the balls and experiment with color highlights on the advanced tab...

curiously waiting for that GI render

DigiMatt · 21-01-2003, 09:35 PM

Thanks for comments guys, ofcourse there could be some markings on the balls but chalkmarks should only be on the cueball which is not in the picture, however if any of you have some hints on how I could achieve realistic looking marks please tell me..

Im sorry but I had to cancel the GI render.. After 30hours not even 1/5 was done

( how ever what was done looked very good so rest asure that a GI render will come in time.

Felt shader sounds interesting, I will go search the net for that cause I havent really been able to make it look very realistic with the procedurals Ive been using now.

The colors of some of the balls disturb me too, so I will tweak them and try the tips you guys gave me about diffuse and color highligts settings..

well.. back to tweaking

//Matt

DigiMatt · 21-01-2003, 09:41 PM

Hey again, dont know if its for better or worse but heres a render with a little different lighting.. btw. if anyone knows about that 'felt shader' please let me know

//Matt

DigiMatt · 22-01-2003, 11:15 PM

Hey guys,

new update, tweaked colors and surface of the balls.. I dont think I will get it much better now.. just hope it doesnt come out as dark as it always does when I post it..
I will start tampering with the felt texture now.. if anyone have any tips on that I will be more than happy to hear them.

thanks

//Matt

DigiMatt · 22-01-2003, 11:20 PM

oops.. forgot the image :o

Mark · 22-01-2003, 11:31 PM

Hey Matt, those balls are really looking hoopy now...

Regards,
Mark

threedfanatic · 23-01-2003, 12:52 AM

They look much more realistic now. The only thing that stands out to me is the yellow balls the 9 and 1 seem to have to much brown in them now. Looking way better

DigiMatt · 23-01-2003, 06:44 AM

Thanks for comments mark and threedfanatic, I'll check into the thing about 1 and 9 ball.. I think your right that they are a little too dark/brownish, I'll try and lower the diffuse a little, 7 and 15 also looks a little too dark I think..

thanks again

//Matt

buco · 25-01-2003, 02:38 PM

The balls look definitely good now! What is strange to me is the balls' shadow. You can easily feel that there are three strong light sources on the top of the table but not respective shadows on it.. Anyway good work

camdoggz · 28-01-2003, 12:28 AM

looking good dude,

Only thing I can notice is the white around the numbers is very "white". The balls I have here at home have the same colour (or material) under the number as in the band circling the ball.

Hope you get that. But apart from that they are looking sweet.

19-01-2003, 10:25 PM	#16
buco Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milano, Italia Posts: 195	Hi Digi, Photoshop uses a predefinited RGB setting decided during install time. This could be your problem (that usually is not intended to be a problem :p ); if you want to see the images with your RGB monitor setting (and thus the way you'll see them in a browser) you have to search for the preview submenu (I don't know the exact name in localized versions, mine is under 'visualizza') and choose the option 'no compensation'. You could also preview a standard Mac or Windows RGB setting and as you post images on the web you should find the best compromise between all of them assuming that your monitor gamma is set correctly... Gamma things... __________________ Everything should be as simple as possible, but not more.. (AE)

21-01-2003, 07:14 PM	#18
Bobakabob Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England Posts: 42	Nice image - Perhaps add a little smudging to the shiny ball surfaces and turn up the antialiasing. It will be interesting to see how you achieve a convincing table texture... I'm sure I saw a felt shader a whileback? __________________ Bob Szczerba "Gravity always lets you down"

21-01-2003, 09:13 PM	#20
philip Tutorial Clown Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 817	yep, chalk marks are a good idea, but please: only on the white ball; everything else will be a fould :p you could also try and lower the diffuse setting for the balls and experiment with color highlights on the advanced tab... curiously waiting for that GI render __________________ Don't ever argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

25-01-2003, 02:38 PM	#28
buco Full Access Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milano, Italia Posts: 195	The balls look definitely good now! What is strange to me is the balls' shadow. You can easily feel that there are three strong light sources on the top of the table but not respective shadows on it.. Anyway good work __________________ Everything should be as simple as possible, but not more.. (AE)

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21-01-2003, 07:12 AM	#17
DigiMatt Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,182	Just wanted to say that this thread is not dead, I just want a faster computer Got a GI render going and it takes forever, hopes it comes out good when its done. //Matt

21-01-2003, 07:33 PM	#19
threedfanatic Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach Posts: 43	Nicely done, the only thing that really stands out to me is that the balls seem way to bright. They almost look like christmas ornaments. You might also add some chalk marks on the balls, dirty them up a bit, the seem way to clean that is if you are going for realizm. Hope this helps.

21-01-2003, 09:35 PM	#21
DigiMatt Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,182	Thanks for comments guys, ofcourse there could be some markings on the balls but chalkmarks should only be on the cueball which is not in the picture, however if any of you have some hints on how I could achieve realistic looking marks please tell me.. Im sorry but I had to cancel the GI render.. After 30hours not even 1/5 was done ( how ever what was done looked very good so rest asure that a GI render will come in time. Felt shader sounds interesting, I will go search the net for that cause I havent really been able to make it look very realistic with the procedurals Ive been using now. The colors of some of the balls disturb me too, so I will tweak them and try the tips you guys gave me about diffuse and color highligts settings.. well.. back to tweaking //Matt

22-01-2003, 11:15 PM	#23
DigiMatt Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,182	Hey guys, new update, tweaked colors and surface of the balls.. I dont think I will get it much better now.. just hope it doesnt come out as dark as it always does when I post it.. I will start tampering with the felt texture now.. if anyone have any tips on that I will be more than happy to hear them. thanks //Matt

22-01-2003, 11:31 PM	#25
Mark Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunbury, UK Posts: 2,339	Hey Matt, those balls are really looking hoopy now... Regards, Mark

23-01-2003, 12:52 AM	#26
threedfanatic Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: long beach Posts: 43	They look much more realistic now. The only thing that stands out to me is the yellow balls the 9 and 1 seem to have to much brown in them now. Looking way better

23-01-2003, 06:44 AM	#27
DigiMatt Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,182	Thanks for comments mark and threedfanatic, I'll check into the thing about 1 and 9 ball.. I think your right that they are a little too dark/brownish, I'll try and lower the diffuse a little, 7 and 15 also looks a little too dark I think.. thanks again //Matt

28-01-2003, 12:28 AM	#29
camdoggz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1	looking good dude, Only thing I can notice is the white around the numbers is very "white". The balls I have here at home have the same colour (or material) under the number as in the band circling the ball. Hope you get that. But apart from that they are looking sweet.